Episode Summary
In this episode of The Expat Files, Johnny Mueller dives into the multifaceted experiences of expat life in Latin America. He begins by discussing the frequency and effects of small earthquakes, emphasizing the risks of living in poorly constructed buildings, such as adobe houses, and the lack of seismic safety measures in poorer neighborhoods. He also shares a personal anecdote about an earthquake that occurred during a previous episode, highlighting how different structures and sitting positions can affect the experience of seismic activity.
Johnny then shifts focus to his recent visit to an amusement park in Latin America, where he contrasts the modern, well-maintained rides with the general lack of maintenance in the region. He references an engineering friend who explains that rides are over-designed by 400 percent, making them safe even with minimal maintenance. He also comments on the economic conditions in Latin America, where people often neglect car maintenance due to financial constraints, and contrasts this with the expat experience at the amusement park, where he feels like an outsider.
The episode continues with Johnny discussing the unique social dynamics of living as a gringo (foreigner) in Latin America. He shares personal anecdotes about being perceived as a 'b-grade VIP' and the contrast between the typical tourist experience and the more authentic, affordable lifestyle available to expats who live off the tourist trail. He also touches on cultural observations, such as the popularity of carnivals and the fashion culture among young Latin American women, and offers practical advice for expats, including a seminar for those interested in learning more about expat life in the region.
Johnny then delves into the practicalities of handling coconuts, warning against using a machete for casual practice due to the risk of injury. He suggests using a dull meat cleaver for safely opening coconuts and provides instructions on how to do so effectively. He also mentions the importance of keeping coconuts unopened for longer freshness and the potential dangers of falling coconuts, referencing a sign at a resort that warns of this risk.
Finally, Johnny discusses the process of extracting coconut water, emphasizing the importance of using a three-eighths inch drill bit to avoid dangerous situations like slipping. He highlights the variability in coconut water quantity and suggests an expat invention to measure coconut water content before purchase. He explains the differences between green and brown coconuts, noting that green coconuts have more water. Johnny also mentions the gummy substance inside coconuts, which some people consider a delicacy, and shares a humorous anecdote about a classmate who enjoyed eating it. He concludes by discussing the benefits of feeding coconuts to dogs, noting that it can improve their dental health and that some initial bleeding from the dog's gums is a sign of unhealthy gums.
Topics
Expat life in Latin America, Earthquakes and seismic activity, Building safety and construction, Cultural and social experiences, Amusement parks in Latin America, Maintenance and safety in Latin America, Economic conditions and car ownership in Latin America, Gringo Experience in Latin America, Cultural Observations, Expat Life and Lifestyle, Carnival Culture, Practical Tips for Expats
Chapters
00:00:00 Opening 00:00:14 Introduction to the Show and Its Focus on Expat Life in Latin America 00:01:09 The 5.2 Earthquake During a Previous Episode 00:02:10 The Experience of Small Earthquakes in Latin America 00:05:03 Risks of Living in Poorly Constructed Buildings During Earthquakes 00:05:58 Introduction to the amusement park visit 00:06:09 Johnny's experience at the amusement park 00:06:41 Contrast with other amusement parks in Latin America 00:08:12 Safety and maintenance of rides 00:09:11 Economic conditions and car maintenance 00:11:24 Johnny's experience as an expat 00:11:53 The Gringo Experience in Latin America: Perceptions and Reality 00:12:12 The Unique Social Status of Gringos in Latin America 00:12:37 The B-Grade VIP Experience for Gringos in Latin America 00:12:49 The Allure of Living Off the Gringo Tourist Trail 00:13:27 The Cost and Quality of Life Off the Tourist Trail 00:14:24 Carnivals as a Cultural Phenomenon in Latin America 00:16:37 The Practical Challenges of Living as an Expat in Latin America 00:17:21 Machete Safety and Practice Warnings 00:18:04 Machete Alternatives for Coconut Opening 00:22:09 Coconut Safety and Real-World Risks 00:22:49 Safety First: Drilling Coconuts Safely 00:24:02 An Opportunity for an Expat Invention 00:25:13 The Gummy Substance Inside Coconuts 00:25:56 A Humorous Anecdote About Coconut Snot 00:26:58 Feeding Coconuts to Dogs for Dental Health
Transcript
Automatically transcribed from the original recording; names and wording may contain errors.
[00:00] South of the border down Mexico way That's where I fell in love when the stars above came up to play and now as I wander Hello there all you expat wannabes. I'm Johnny Mueller and you're listening to the expat files living in Latin America The show that tells you just what it's like to live work play and or retire down here in Latin America It's a mix of the good the bad the ugly and the great and it's all right here. So let's get started today Let's start by telling a few stories true life stories usually without a moral involving expats in Latin America Of course, I get a lot of emails from people saying Johnny We do like it when you give us facts and figures and stuff about Latin America
[00:47] But mix it in with a few stories way to which I say no problem like the schnoz Jimmy Durante used to say Stories I got a million of them. Of course that dates me, right? Anyway, first, let me start out by telling you that when I did the last show I neglected to mention that right about 15 minutes in there was a 5.2 earthquake that hit right in the middle of a sentence now how I could have overlooked telling you about that at the time Well, it's because like I said in so many shows you get a lot of little earthquakes down here Most of them you don't even feel and often the next day you wake up and look at the TV or read the paper and you See there was a four or five and you don't even remember it because you just didn't feel it
[01:33] Normally most people can't even feel it two or three and if you're walking around or you're driving in a car You can't even feel a four or five sometimes But if you're in a chair or a bed or you're sitting quietly somewhere and a four or five hits you're gonna feel it And by the way as expat Eddie says the best way to experience a small earthquake In fact, some gringles come down and they expect it So when they've been down and there isn't one they're kind of disappointed Think of how you'd feel if you went to a well-known active volcano site and it was a cloudy day Anyway expat Eddie always says the best way to experience a small earthquake a tour or three Those subtle ones that most people might not feel but they happen quite frequently down here Anyway, he says he's felt quite a number of twos and threes
[02:20] Get this now while sitting on the toilet seat now. Don't laugh There's some scientific basis in fact to what he says Toilet seats are well bolted down to the floor and down here in Latin America since they don't have wooden floors It's all in concrete, which is a nice solid base to the ground Now remember if you're standing you've got the soft rubber soles of your shoes to insulate you from vibration And if you're sitting in a chair, there's some cushion to insulate you from the vibration of the earth there, too It's got some padding expat Eddie says and don't laugh he says the toilets like a kind of a butt stethoscope and Carrying that thought a bit farther and I don't know if we should actually But I will anyway expat Eddie goes on to say it stands to reason then that backpackers are the tourists that feel the vast
[03:12] Majority of small earthquakes since they tend to eat that cheap Contaminated food on the street and are always flirting with Montezuma's revenge makes sense, huh? That said jumping out of the septic tank and into the gutter Let's move on now, you know a 5.2 earthquake anyone can feel and this one lasted about 30 seconds And here's what I've noticed over the years anything between a three and a five You generally don't notice anything rattling in the house. You can feel it a little bit and Occasionally the dogs will start barking in the neighborhood, etc Anyway, if you're in a nicely built modern anti seismic building or house Nothing under a five will make things shake rattle and roll unless you've got some glass ticky tacky things around the house and on
[03:58] The shelves, you know humbles and glass plates and things stuff You know that older folks like my grandma and yours tend to accumulate in vast quantities So yes, if there's a four or five earthquake at grandma's house Some of her glass angels and who dolls will hit the floor and she'll be sad, but you won't good things She lives in Cleveland, right? But anyway that 5.2 last week just started rattling the glass in the place I was in and you know the real stress that comes along with a shaker like that is not in the moment It's all about what's gonna happen next because many times within a few minutes or even up to an hour or two later You do have perceptible aftershocks However, the good news is that they're almost always a lot smaller than the first one So then should a five or even a six-pointer were you nope unless you happen to be visiting someone out in the boonies who lives
[04:46] in an adobe house Those things are crumbling death traps during an earthquake as you probably know adobe constructions Basically bricks and mud mortar with no metal reinforcement at all totally against code Which has never stopped a poor family from building in that style But do note the only good thing about adobe is that once your house falls down or cracks in half during an earthquake You can rebuild it in about three weeks So you don't want to be in an adobe structure during an earthquake and you don't want to be in a lower Middle-class or poor neighborhood where all structures have tin roofs and wooden walls Because you see in poor neighborhoods like that no one and I mean no one's ever heard of anti seismic construction In fact the word seismic or anti seismic are totally foreign concepts
[05:33] You might as well be talking about Rolexes and Ferraris I mean, come on These are families that make between two and four hundred bucks a month and speaking of Ferraris and Rolexes yesterday once again I took a little diversionary trip to one of the local carnivals that just came through town now These carnivals that come through big cities in latin america can be tiny little things with three or four tacky rides Or big gigantic full-scale midways that are 10 or 20 blocks square And personally I go to these things about as much as I'd go to a bowling alley about once every couple years But this one I went to yesterday had some terribly scary and impressive rides Unlike so many other amusement parks i've seen in latin america that look like the rides are out of the 1970s or 80s
[06:22] Brought down directly from the states after they've outlived their usefulness Kind of like the amusement park ride version of a chicken bus In other words jumping on one of these rides would not be a very comforting thought to an expat or a gringo I mean, come on who wants to be 40 feet up in the air Flipping around on a 30 year old piece of rusted junk However, in this case all the rides in this amusement park seem to be very modern quite new and not really junk at all Now that said don't ask me about the maintenance because you know, this is latin america now expat eddie Who by the grace of buddha could have been a carne himself in a past life? Eddy says the maintenance issue or lack of it makes going on one of these things all the more tempting for the adventurous But you know being an engineer myself in a past life
[07:09] And having made some lifelong friends in the nerdy engineering world I actually have an old engineering friend who worked on amusement park rides up in the states and his specialty Roller coaster design. In fact, he's had his hand in some of the big monsters at six flags Palisades park and not spare your farm. He told me that when they build these rides They over design the structural supports etc by about 400 percent. That's four times what they need to be Kind of like airplane manufacturers like mowing and lakid. They do the same thing about 400 percent overkill good to know right? So like expat eddie says you have to look at it like this If for example every six months there's got to be a big maintenance check on one of these rides like a roller coaster
[07:57] Meaning up in the states where they'll actually do those kind of checks and inspections and once one of these big rides gets down to latin america If optimistically speaking the maintenance only gets done about a quarter of the time still if these things are manufactured to 400 percent overkill chances are absolutely nothing is going to happen to you as a passenger And the proof of the pudding is just to look and see how old the cars are running on the roads down here And to think that cars that are 10 15 20 30 even 40 years old are still somehow chugging along Some of them looking so bombed out on the outside chicken wired together and duct taped still oftentimes on the open highway One of those junks will pass you at 90 miles an hour And remember down here after a car's let's say five years old
[08:44] No one and I mean no one's following the maintenance schedule In fact the only people that ever do are people who buy brand new cars Who are advised when they first pick up the car that they really should follow the maintenance schedule and they hand them a book With little coupons in it for the usual checkup sequences But since down here in latin america people make so much less money than the average first world person If they can pull off the financing on a new car They never figure in any extra dough for the routine maintenance checkups soon enough after they brought their cars in two or three times For that routine maintenance check and see that even a routine checkup with an oil change is a hundred bucks or so Doesn't take long for them to give up on the dealership and never bring it back again And how do I know that because i've been to a few of these dealerships to get parts and stuff myself
[09:34] And i've talked to some of these maintenance mechanic guys In fact one guy told me going to the dealership down here is like going to the dentist Nobody makes an appointment until there's a minor catastrophe That's why when you walk into a dealership like a honda or kia or misubishi or whatever You'll notice that most all of the cars that are in for routine maintenance are new or light new And note when you walk by the lounge where owners sit waiting to pick up their cars You're looking at the uppity one to three percent of latin americans who make enough money so that they really don't care About the cost of things and note that when you're in a place like a toyota dealership The only short brown common looking people you'll see Are the people working there and the maids and the drivers and the bodyguards that have accompanied their owners to pick up their cars
[10:21] But where was I? Oh, yeah, I was at the amusement park And once again as you pull up to park in the lot that's next to the amusement park You'll see all sorts of lower middle class and poor people mulling around having a good time Just waiting to get in I guess with a certain high percentage of them Never intending to go in at all because they can't afford the entrance fee Kind of like sitting outside the entrance to a baseball or football game Knowing you don't have the money to get in but enjoying the excitement and the rush of the crowd and the activity And note unlike amusement parks up in the states that I remember back in chicago Here in latin america, they have a cover charge that keeps those lower middle class and poor people from actually coming into the park itself
[11:06] Because you see with a whopping a 50 cent I said 50 cent cover charge That keeps out the riffraff or I should say keeps them mulling around in the parking lot and outside of the park itself In fact, I noticed yesterday there were more people outside the park than there were actually inside All of course having a damn good time and all seemingly quite happy as most people are here in latin america What else? Oh, yeah, I noticed right away again that I was the tallest guy in the whole place I mean i'm six foot tall and there was maybe a thousand to two thousand people outside and yet There I was the tallest person there and the only gringo in the whole place So how do you like that? Well, I like it. I like being the only gringo
[11:53] I mean I see what's happening out of the corner of my eye They're looking at me like i'm james bond or brad pit or something Even though I look more like mark zuckerberg. No, i'm not that ugly, but you get the idea I don't mean to say they're making a big deal out of it or whispering to each other But it's like eddie says and he knows exactly what i'm talking about He lives in el solvador and there are very few gringos in el solvador He told me it's like being a perpetual loser at the indie 500 Like eddie said it doesn't matter if you lose you still have a cool uniform a fantastic car And everyone wants to invite you to parties and buy you drinks even though. No one remembers your name They still want to hang with you That's why once you get used to it You just gotta love being off the gringo tourist trail and it's true Have you ever wondered what it's like being a kind of a b grade vip?
[12:41] That's vip down here in latin america. You know vip Vip you heard me talk about that on a past show i'm sure well Just know that if you're up in cleveland or schonectady and you live kind of a dull mundane life And you never got to be a cheerleader or prom queen or captain of the football team First string anything all you have to do is come on down here to latin america and live off the gringo tourist trail And believe me sooner or later like it or not You'll get a little taste of what it's like But unfortunately 99.9 percent of all gringos who come down here on a trip to latin america They go to the tourist spots costa rica panama cancun playa del carmin, etc Fact is I did that trip myself for three or four years
[13:27] But I found out that life is a thousand times better off the gringo tourist trail and twice or even three times less expensive So then everybody asked me how do you maneuver your way around places that are off the gringo tourist trail How do you settle in and work it out? Especially if your spanish sucks Well, if you haven't got your plan b in motion already You really should try to come down to my expat wisdom seminar coming up this january six days and six nights With classes in the morning and boots on the ground in the afternoons and evenings It's a little less than two months away and we're over half filled already So do go to www expat wisdom calm Click on the seminar link and get the full details Come on down and find out what it's like to live a first world lifestyle on a measly social security check
[14:16] Yes, and you will meet expats down here who are doing just that. So again, it's www expat wisdom calm Meanwhile back at the carnival I was telling you that at the carnival not only was I the tallest person there out of about a thousand to two thousand people I was the only gringo now Let me point out something for all of you guys and gals up there in the states familiar with carnivals You know, they're a dying thing people just don't go anymore. They got too many other things to do You know 300 channels of television internet facebook all that garbage, but down here in latin america It's a whole different matter now I'm, not saying you're going to see the upper classes go to these carnivals though I did see in the parking lot some range rovers and some porch cayons
[15:01] Manned by the usual five foot four bodyguards in badly fitting suits etc Because you know kids of the wealthy want to go to these carnivals, too I mean, come on What are your bodyguards for if you can't stick them right in the face of the lower classes, you know Which is why the upper classes down here are basically dyed in the wool pompous ass jerks But I digress you see one of the other things that makes these amusement park carnivals so popular down here is that That's where young lower middle and middle class teenage girls go to show off their Fashioned sense in style as they perceive it and of course their new high-heeled stilettos They've been saving for the event because remember these girls are short Yes, you heard right high heels at a dirt lot carnival. Ah, yes, the price we pay for beauty, huh?
[15:50] It becomes a kind of a stage for adolescent girl competition Even though these days two and three hundred channel cable tv has come to latin america Even smartphones and facebook and twitter There really is no substitute for lower and middle class girls to show off their style and fashion Then in person when the carnival comes to town now according to one group of young latin guys I spoke to yesterday They said the two very best places for young adolescent guys to check out young adolescent girls in person that is not on facebook is at amusement parks and at church and not get this at school because in latin america School girls and guys wear uniforms all the way up through high school Which makes it virtually impossible for young latin girls to show off their clothes and their style etc
[16:37] Now changing gears a bit for all you people out there who like drinking cocoa water I'm here to report that if you're on the coast anywhere in latin america You can buy fresh coconuts for anywhere from 10 to 25 cents each And each one will give you about a half a liter 500 milliliters of coconut water But you see here's the problem You can buy the coconuts all you want and store them in the trunk of your car or in your house somewhere But how do you get that water out of there without causing a huge mess? I mean, let's face it. We are inexperienced gringos and expats that is Inexperienced in the art of machetes, which is the preferred method to crack these things open And even though you might have a machete or two laying in the garden shed I don't recommend you go out and start practicing with one even if on a stump in the backyard
[17:26] Because you know the fact is even six seven and eight year old latin folks Guys and girls alike can use a machete like you can use a tv remote If you ask any one of those teenagers kids or even an adult to show you the particular scars and war wounds They obtain on their way to becoming a crack machete user Every latin will gladly show you his or her scars the mentionable ones that is so all these guys and girls down here became experts at the machete by making a few mistakes and the same things bound to happen to you So if you want to keep all your appendages the mentionables and the unmentionables leave the machete to the gardener But here's a tip You know those big square meat cleavers? If you pick up one of those and keep a kind of a dull edge on it
[18:12] Those things are just perfect for slicing up coconuts Now note when you buy coconuts normally the guy or gal at the stand will slice it open for you But 90 of the time you want to take it home or take it with you and have it another time And by the way a coconut that's not tapped into can last a month or even more But when tapped once the air hits the inside of the shell in the water Coconut water will start tasting a little sour and a little bitter after about a day So you have to pretty much plan on drinking it the day you open it Although I know some people who pour it into a container and stick in the refrigerator and it could last two or three days But I wouldn't count on it. So anyway when buying whole coconuts, here's what you should do Tell the guy or girl to take a whack with this machete and make a flat spot on that coconut
[19:00] So it'll be stable and not roll off the table when you want to tap it Well, what do you know a poet and didn't know it? So then you might ask what's the top and what's the bottom of a coconut? We'll get to that in a second Now, of course down here You can buy the little brown coconut with the husk peeled off But I wouldn't recommend that buy the whole coconut not just the central nut whole coconuts with the husk will stay fresh much longer But as you know with the husk It's a hell of a lot of work to peel it down unless you have someone around the house who knows how to wield a machete Anyway, when you buy the coconut you get the guy to put a flat spot on it That'll be the bottom let him decide where to make that cut He knows best and if you want have him put a flat spot on the top of the coconut too The part that you'll eventually going to punch a hole in and drink from so then since you're not going to use a machete
[19:49] How do you get the water out? Well, like I said to get one of those big meat cleavers and you take the coconut outside Don't try this indoors because it's way too messy without a doubt. You'll get pieces of husk everywhere You should do it on bare ground or over a two by four or some heavy piece of wood Because you will miss now and again with that cleaver and you don't want to hit cement you want to hit wood or dirt Anyway, you hack at it a few times till you start seeing the white meat part of the coconut and you stop Now the white meat of the coconuts about a quarter to a half inch thick So if you can cut it down till you just start skimming that white part You can put that coconut in a refrigerator or leave it out on the counter somewhere for a couple of days up to a week Now when you want to drink the water, then you just punch a hole with a little knife or the end of a fork
[20:37] It'll go right through quite easily and stick your straw in there and you're all set Now that all might sound easy, but believe me the first few times you try it It won't be it really is worth it in the end and every once in a while you'll get a coconut That's just so tasty that on a one to ten It's a ten whereas with that bottled and pasteurized coconut water that everybody's used to buying up in the states For ten times the price I might add. I don't think i've ever tasted bottled coconut water That's been over a seven Of course, you have to have tasted a coconut when it's freshly cut open before you can even make that comparison That said there's a faster better safer Some say method to get the water out of a coconut without causing a huge mess by frantically hacking away at the husk
[21:23] What you do is you buy a raw coconut You don't even have to have the guy cut a flat bottom on it But it's still a good idea that way your coconut won't walk around the table or even fall off and land on your foot By the way for any of you who've skyped or mumbled with me You might have recognized I never use a camera so no one can see my ugly mug But I did for a while have an icon or an avatar up there A photograph I took of a very cool sign that said beware of coconuts It was posted at a very nice resort around a pool that was just surrounded by coconut palms A tremendous resort I might add for about 45 bucks a night completely off the gringo tourist trail Again, yet another great reason to stay off the gringo tourist trail when at all possible
[22:09] Anyway, that sign said it all a simple artist sketch of a bunch of coconut palms Just loaded with coconuts with a couple of stick people depicted under the tree Just about ready to get bombarded and the caption said beware of falling coconuts in spanish Of course the first time you see a sign like that you do a laugh But it's there for a reason even though there's no one to sue. This is latin america So as I was sitting around the pool every so often you did hear a thunk a coconut falling of course Anyway, when I looked it up later, I found that over 200 people a year worldwide are killed by falling coconuts. Anyway Bottom line you don't want one of these things falling on your head or your foot Where was I? Oh, yeah to this simple method of getting the coconut water out
[22:57] Well, whether you have a flat spot or not on your coconut, just take a power drill Stabilize your coconut which is why you want a flat spot by the way Drill a three-eighths inch hole in that coconut now If you drill a quarter inch hole even though the straw should fit it usually doesn't because The little fibers from the coconut husk will twist and clog up the edges of the hole And if you drill a half inch hole, it's too big and often a big diameter bit like that Can start walking and slipping on you and that could be dangerous, too So I found by hook and crook a three-eighths inch bit is perfect And I found out that it's best not to transfer the coconut water from the coconut itself better to drink it from a straw Right from the coconut that's even if it's one of those coconuts. That's got so much water
[23:46] You can't finish it at one sitting Sometimes you'll get a massive amount of coconut water up to a liter Double what you'd normally get and some of the time you'll get less than the usual half a liter You just never know even by shaking the coconut beforehand Now there's an opportunity for an expat invention A device that can tell you how much water there is in a coconut before you buy the thing Not really a difficult problem for your average engineer type. There's a thought for you So anyway, you pay you money and it takes you chances Now note, there are lots of different kinds of coconuts, but throughout latin america Anyway, there are generally two types that are sold and they both look quite a bit different One has a kind of a shiny leafy green exterior
[24:32] And the other has a outside service that's more brownish and dry Now the one with the outer green coating on it has a lot more coconut water with a lot less of the meaty white stuff We all know from up north is coconut and the coconut with the browner kind of drier outside layer on it Generally has less coconut water and a little bit more of the white coconut stuff But there's another thing that most people don't know Once you've broken one of those things open after you've sucked the water out, of course There's about an eighth inch of a gummy semi-transparent stuff. That's clinging to the inside of the white meat of the coconut Some say it looks like rubber cement and others who are a bit more earthy like expat eddie call it coconut snot
[25:20] Now don't let that deter you because some latins down here look at that particular part of the coconut That little spoonful or two that you get from certain coconuts as a delicacy So like I said, don't let that deter you from trying it Which reminds me there was one kid in my grade school class And I think there's one in everyone's grade school class that didn't mind eating his well We won't go there And why is it for all the years you went to school and all the kids you ran into over your life? You remember the name of that guy in this case jim zack So zack if you're out there now your secrets out and I hope you got over it But if not do try the more socially acceptable coconut snot you'll live longer and maybe even find a girlfriend And here's something i'm sure you didn't know dogs. Absolutely. Love the coconut meat right out of the coconut
[26:10] In fact after you've dunked the water crack it in half on cement outside on a concrete street or curb, of course Then give those remaining two halves of the coconut to your dog without scraping the coconut out at all give it to them whole And your dog or dogs will spend a half a day digging out that white meat In time they'll get out every last little white morsel and it's great for their teeth and their health What you probably don't know is that dogs on dry kibble dog food have a lot of plaque build up And don't have very healthy gums and teeth because they don't get the necessary hard stiff stimulation to the gums etc That comes from chewing things in a wild natural diet, which they don't have look we have soft diets, too
[26:56] But we use toothbrushes Vets down here say coconuts are good for dogs But also note that when you first give them a coconut there might be some blood on the coconut and you'll go Oh, no, that's bad for my dog But actually it tells you that your dog has unhealthy gums After a time that blood will disappear when the gums get healthy again It's like the first couple of time a person flosses and gets some blood Well, the blood is a sign of unhealthy gums And if you continue flossing after a while the blood stops But do note that in time your dog will play with that coconut until there's shrapnel everywhere South of the border You've been listening to the expat files living in latin america coming to you twice a week from somewhere south of the border
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