Episode Summary
In this episode of The Expat Files, Johnny Mueller explores the state of Chinese restaurants in Latin America, highlighting their lack of quality, sanitation, and hygiene. He introduces his friend Dave, who is interested in opening a Chinese restaurant in the region. Johnny shares his own experience of finding a decent Chinese restaurant and describes its first-world amenities. He then shares Dave's email about his visit to a new Chinese restaurant, which is located in a high-end area with upscale surroundings. Dave's email includes observations about the restaurant's name for tacos chinos, which is humorously referred to as 'shit tacos,' and mentions the owner's background, including staying at a four-star hotel in Guatemala City. Dave also notes some humorous and confusing signs, such as a misspelled 'hot tube' sign in a hotel, which leads to a light-hearted comment about pregnancy.
The podcast segment also discusses the cultural and legal differences between the United States and Latin America, focusing on the concept of legal innocence and the impact of class on legal treatment. Johnny highlights how in Latin America, individuals without legal representation or insurance are often treated as guilty until proven innocent, contrasting this with the U.S. system where the presumption is innocence until proven guilty. The segment also touches on the lag in adopting modern cultural elements, such as the naming of TV shows and the presence of English signage in local businesses, which reflects the influence of the U.S. and the local adaptation of these elements.
Johnny Mueller also discusses the spread of business coaching in Latin America, highlighting its arrival in the Dominican Republic and the cultural context of child-rearing practices. He contrasts the prevalence of physical discipline in Latin American households with the more lenient approach in the United States, noting that while corporal punishment is common, it is typically used sparingly and with clear consequences. Johnny reflects on his own upbringing and the generational differences in parenting styles, emphasizing that while some gringo children may exhibit disrespectful behavior, Latin American children generally show more respect toward their elders.
The episode also covers Johnny's discussion on the role of Latin American television in reporting on U.S. immigration issues and the perspective of Latin Americans living in the U.S. He highlights the presence of Latin correspondents in Washington, D.C., and the content of a report about an immigration attorney giving advice to undocumented individuals. Johnny critiques the attorney's advice as being exploitative, suggesting she benefits from the system she advises undocumented individuals to avoid. He then shifts to discussing high interest rates in Latin America, particularly in Honduras, and warns about the risks of investing in local currencies, citing examples like Venezuela and Brazil where currencies have been unstable.
Finally, Johnny Mueller discusses the phenomenon of 'funny money' in Latin American countries, particularly those receiving significant remittances from the U.S. He explains how the influx of U.S. dollars leads to a strong local currency, but also creates opportunities for exploitation, especially for tourists. He advises against using currency exchange services at airports and recommends checking with a lawyer to choose stable banks. He also highlights the limited deposit insurance coverage in Latin American banks and suggests that most locals are not affected by these limits. The episode concludes with Johnny promoting his upcoming seminar and travel tours for expats interested in living in Latin America.
Topics
Chinese restaurants in Latin America, Quality and hygiene issues, Expatriate experiences, Cultural observations, Humor and local quirks, Legal System Differences, Cultural Lag, Class and Legal Treatment, English Signage in Latin America, Business coaching in Latin America, Child-rearing practices in Latin America, Cultural differences in parenting styles
Chapters
00:00:00 Opening 00:00:32 Johnny's Introduction to the Topic of Chinese Restaurants 00:01:08 Johnny's Experience of Finding a Decent Chinese Restaurant 00:02:09 Dave's Visit to a New Chinese Restaurant in a High-End Area 00:05:01 Dave's Humorous Observation About the Restaurant's Name for Tacos Chinos 00:05:44 Dave's Note on the Misspelled 'Hot Tube' Sign in a Hotel 00:06:55 The Confusing Signage of a Proctology Clinic 00:07:45 Legal Assumptions in Latin America 00:10:43 TV as a Universal Babysitter in Latin Households 00:12:05 Business Coaching in Latin America 00:13:41 Corporal Punishment and Respect for Elders 00:18:12 The Role of Latin American TV in Reporting on U.S. Immigration Issues 00:19:37 Advice for Undocumented Individuals on Avoiding U.S. Immigration Authorities 00:21:34 High Interest Rates in Latin America and Currency Stability 00:23:29 The Link Between Remittances and Currency Strength 00:24:17 The Exploitation of Tourists by Local Currency Exchange 00:25:02 The Trade-Off Between U.S. Dollar CDs and Local Currency CDs 00:26:05 Deposit Insurance and Its Limited Impact on Local Savings 00:26:19 Promotion of the July 2016 Latin Insider Seminar
Transcript
Automatically transcribed from the original recording; names and wording may contain errors.
[00:00] South of the border down Mexico way That's where I fell in love when the stars above came up to play and now I wonder Hello there all you expat wannabes. I'm Johnny Mueller and you're listening to the expat files living in Latin America The show that tells you just what it's like to live work play and or retire down here in Latin America It's a mix of the good the bad the ugly and the great and it's all right here. So let's get started Hey, you gotta love these gringos that come down and get boots on the ground and see what things are really like I'm talking about my friend Dave who came down to one of my earlier expat insider seminars a very nice smart guy Who's always been interested in starting a Chinese restaurant down here because he's had boots on the ground in Central and South America
[00:51] And he knows Chinese restaurants here are sorely lacking not in number not at all They've got great volume down here But terrible quality and even worse sanitation and hygiene if you can believe that in fact everybody I know has been sick on Chinese food down here at one time or another now if you remember a few shows ago I mentioned I finally found a decent Chinese restaurant small clean good food and all that a rarity Actually up to first-world snuff kinda it even has a restroom where you could be comfortably sick I mean, come on, it's happened to all of us You get kind of sick in one particular orifice or another and though we don't much rather be that kind of ill and the clean Comfort of our own homes. Nope. You can't plan these things So when you're out and about and miles away from home sweet home
[01:36] Well, you make do and in this particular tiny gym of a Chinese restaurant The restroom does pass first world muster Anyway, Dave and I are always shooting emails back and forth often about Chinese restaurants and how to really do it right down here I mean face it. It's like that old saying water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink. Well down here It's Chinese restaurants everywhere and well, you get the idea So anyway, Dave came back down to Central America and I sent him over to that new Chinese restaurant And now I'll read his follow-up email after he visited the place first Let me point out that this restaurants in one of those safe high-end burbs I've been talking about on a main road a good 25 miles from a big Latin City one of those upscale areas that are great Places for expats to live and you could tell because this trip mall this restaurant sin has a parking lot
[02:25] That's occasionally filled with ranged rovers and BMW's upscale cars mostly meaning nary a 90 CC crappy motorcycle Nor a junky Box car to be found with the anchor store in that mall being a big well-known Supermarket chain, by the way Every Latin country has its own supermarket chains along with Walmart and Costco The local chains can be low medium or high-end to often it depends on what kind of neighborhood you happen to be in For example in a higher-end neighborhood like the one we're talking about they have a supermarket branch That's high-end well kept up very clean organized Yet the same branch of that store chain will have a supermarket in a real scummy low-end neighborhood and the place will match It'll be scruffy dimly lit dirty windows bad bathrooms, etc
[03:12] So these franchise store chains do know how to cater to the socioeconomic class of their clients and believe it or not What they stock varies from store to store depending on the socioeconomic class too For example, you'll go into one store in a high-end neighborhood And they'll have two different kinds of kosher sea salt from the Mediterranean and you'll go to one of their very same stores in A low-end neighborhood. They won't have any sea salt at all And if you ask the clerk, he won't know what the hell you're talking about Meaning I guess that some of the more thriving Latin American businesses have actually discovered the law of supply and demand Oh, and by the way, you should know this supply and demand is called in Spanish Oh ferta e demanda or ferta which means offer eat the manda
[03:57] Literally in English offer and demand by the way There are those medium and low-end supermarket chains that never Penetrate into the high-end neighborhoods because well, they're just too scruffy disorganized And well typically Latin yet with all their defects like the Chinese restaurants down here They seem to thrive details details that said let me read this email from Dave now Who's been checking out Chinese restaurants and lately the one in the medium high-end strip mall that I give a thumbs up to However, it has its defects and Dave will explain a few of them to you. So Dave says hey, Johnny Just went to the jin xi Chinese restaurant last week They have their own name for tacos chinos, which is of course egg rolls to us. Wait a minute. Wait a minute
[04:43] Let me explain something here for a second I should mention that all throughout Latin America at those thousands and thousands of substandard Chinese restaurants If you order egg rolls, you have to order tacos chinos Chinese tacos Obviously tacos chinos and Dave says yeah, it makes him laugh But Dave says this particular Chinese restaurant has their own name for tacos chinos or egg rolls. They call theirs shit tacos shit tacos That's sh it a cos by the way for those of you seeing this on YouTube You'll get a big laugh because I've got a photo of it up there. Yep. You'll see a plate of those yummy shit tacos in full color Hmm. Okay. Okay, then Dave says I saw the owner and talked to his daughter who speaks English
[05:30] Well, oh, he also said he stayed at a four-star hotel in Guatemala City, which gave him a few laughs, too He said the sign in the hot tub area was misspelled or lost in translation. It said hot tube TUBE which just might give a clueless gringo pause if he were to do a midnight skinny-dip cannonball. Oh And the last line of the sign reads quote you are not allowed to use our hot tube if you are pregnant Hmm sounds reasonable enough. However to our first world sensibilities. You might be thinking hmm hot tube Hey, isn't that how most people get pregnant in the first place? And then Dave said he took a walk around the general area and stumbled into a middle-class mall there He saw a store called American racks are a CKS
[06:19] It was a clothing store right but by the name he thought at first it might be a competitor to Hooters Which has also landed down here in Latin America Then he said walking around he saw a proctology clinic that had some interesting signage, too And remember Dave's reporting from well off the gringo tourist trail where locals never noticed the errors They figure anything in English is cool and high-class. So they go for it no matter if it's grammatically correct or not So then Dave says in case you don't know what Proctology is I guess they have to spell it out for you. It says first in Spanish Colon dash recto dash a no then it says in English colon dash rectum dash a nice Fair enough, you know in case they pick up a gringo client or two
[07:06] But get this the actual name of the place is colon recto Essay ah which directly translates into English as Collins and rectums incorporated, you know when you see stuff like that You know, you're way off the gringo tourist trail Sounds like either a bad porn movie or what the sign should say above the US Congress when it's in session And then Dave ends by saying no ands ifs or buts about what's going on there. No pun intended, right Dave? Then Dave finishes by putting a link up saying Johnny Have a look at this link to see what the American media is falsely saying about the Latin legal system That's you're guilty until proven innocent. But in the US you're quote innocent until proven guilty
[07:51] Yeah, right then Dave says the feds in the states are trying to teach Latin governments to do asset Forfitures and other atrocities. Thank God. The Latins are not cooperating as the feds would like So anyway, Johnny good to talk to you and I'll be back in six months or so to finish my permanent residency Alright Dave, that's the way to do it and my comments as you know Dave it's only people like you who get boots on the ground that see these things Yep you can spend hundreds of hours on the internet and still it'll be nothing like getting just a few days with boots on the Ground here and about those crazy Latin signs and habits and nuances Just noticing that stuff is all part of your gringo advantage And well why they call it the third world and about what you said in the end of your email about Latin American law
[08:38] Differing from US law. So is it really true down here? You're guilty until proven innocent and up there Innocent until proven guilty. Well, really it's just a case of semantics and we know what it's really like up in the States Don't we so then if you're undergoing a criminal prosecution down here, what are your rights under the law? You will hear stories from the middle and lower classes that you aren't guilty until proven innocent But you'll only really hear that from people who are broke or who don't have lawyers In fact, you'll find almost all middle and lower class Latins have never used a lawyer in their lives unless they've bought or sold Property sort of like the way it was in the 60s and 70s in the States before first world lawsuit mania kicked in Now that mania has not arrived down here. There's a big lag time. Thank God
[09:26] However, like I said, if you talk to someone from the middle or lower classes I'll give you examples on how the law assumes you are guilty not innocent And here's a common example if a middle or lower middle class Latin is driving a motorcycle and gets into an accident The cops will show up impound his bike and take him straight to jail unless he's in the hospital or the morgue And why is that? Well, that's because he doesn't have two nickels to scrape together and he doesn't have a lawyer However, you and I will have a personal Latin lawyer and if we get in trouble That's the very first call we'll make then he'll show up or send someone from his office And they won't take your car and they won't put you in jail Sure, they might take you down to the station But your lawyer will do the talking and get you out of that one soon Besides that you'll be carrying car insurance and the cops will have no reason to impound your car
[10:15] Unless you actually hit someone and put them in the hospital. However, if you don't have insurance, they'll take it So down here if you don't have car insurance or you don't have a lawyer you're guilty until proven innocent But if you do you're innocent until proven guilty as simple as that doesn't sound fair But hell even Socrates once said there's no proof that Zeus is fair or something like that Oh and get this the other day. I was at a middle-class Latin person's house and the TV was on TVs are always on in Latin households, by the way. Oh and up in the States They call the TV the universal babysitter, right? Well down here It's the universal babysitters babysitter the babysitter being the cleaning lady or the nanny now Whether there's a baby in the picture or not you can bet she'll be sneaking a peek at the TV any chance she gets so
[11:04] When she's in the house cleaning or whatever just a tip here turn off the tube and drain the hot tube, too If you have one anyway I'm sitting in the living room and the maids flicking through the channels and she stops at MTV where there's some Ridiculous Latin heartthrob belting out some annoying syrupy piece of mush Yes, they do have a Latin MTV here an exact copy of the old MTV format only everything's in Spanish And talk about lag time. You know what the latest and greatest is right now on Latin MTV There's a new show called Unplugged Wow, isn't that an innovation only about 30 years behind the first world on that one, huh? And guess what they call it Unplugged no, not disconnection or disconnect. Oh, which would be the correct words in Spanish
[11:53] Is that they just defer to the English name go figure now speaking of lag time I just had to cut out this little ad in the paper. Guess what else has arrived recently in Latin America Coaching yes business coaching. Of course, you know, it's been all the rage in the states for what 10 years now And yes now it's arrived in all its glory this ad it is in Spanish Of course, and it says in funky trendy letters learn how to be a coach get your international certification Diploma in coaching business groups, you'll be instructed by master coach Sonia Colombo from the DR the Dominican Republic. Yeah, right We all know the world's epicenter the Mecca for business coaching is the DR. Where else?
[12:40] Okay, changing gears a bit. Here's an article about child upbringing here in Latin America. Very interesting according to a poll of 16,000 adult Latins 98.7% of them admitted part of their childhood discipline Included being spanked by one or more of their parents and the poll points out that less than 0.5 That's half of 1% of Latins say they were never subjected to physical discipline in the home So it's lag time again down here It's spare the rod spoil the child and up in the states It's spare the rod and spend a couple days in jail cooling off Hmm, but the odd thing is half of all those adult Latin surveyed said they'd never hit their own children Well, doesn't that sound a lot like what happened with the US adults in the 60s 70s and 80s
[13:31] Almost all of them were spanked on occasion by their World War two or depression era parents Yet today more than half of modern US parents say they never hit their kids So then is there a reasonable level of corporal punishment for children? Well, Latin seems to think so might that be why? 95% of Latin American children are calm reserved and respectful around parents adults and elders Meanwhile many children of the Latin wealthy classes are in constant parental disrespect mode I don't know you tell me Now don't get me wrong You don't see parents whipping their kids or kids running around with bruises and lacerations Because you see as one Latin parent told me after a couple of swats when they're pretty young They almost never pull any crap again
[14:18] So bottom line kids are not whipped with regularity The kids just know what's coming if they get out of line, so they don't get out of line So say the parents anyway and from what I can see it looks like it's true now Maybe I feel this way myself because my dad whacked me a few times And I knew I got off easy because I was a pretty crafty kid And I didn't get caught in my misdemeanors is not one tenth at the time So how about you did your parents would be you on occasion or were they the benevolent Brady Bunch parents or Ward and June Cleaver type now I'll tell you it really bothers me when I see kids mouthing off to their parents I tell you it used to drive me nuts in my own extended family up in Chicago when I'd go to a party or Get-together, and I'd see the kids my nieces and nephews saying harsh and nasty things to their parents
[15:06] I could never get away with when I was a kid in fact I yelled at my own sister's kid once because he was jumping up and down on a glass and table and After that she didn't speak to me for a year instead She read me the riot act saying I had no right to discipline her kids by the way that kid right now is in His mid to late 20s and guess what after wrecking three or four of his parents cars He's one of those kids who couldn't make it on his own so he came back to live with mommy Sound familiar now down here in Latin America I do see kids insult their parents But I only see it happening with guess who with permissive gringos and their insolent kids I'll tell you even wise-ass Latin kids of the rich don't berate their parents in public anyway
[15:53] They seem to have that much sense But I've been in spots where I've seen gringo kids even half gringo kids from a mixed Latino gringo marriage Insult their parents in the worst way in front of company and the parents just take it then again I know gringos with kids who are perfectly well behaved But it's the gringos who've lost control of their kids that drive me nuts in fact one time I was at a gringo friend of mine's house and his 14 year old daughter laid into him with such venom I just had to say something I pulled him aside and said why do you take that from her? I'm not telling you how to bring your kid up. I'm just saying in front of me. It's uncomfortable and another reason why I live off the gringo tourist trail because on that trail you run into the same old crap that you've been trying
[16:38] To get the hell away from in fact the other day. I was speaking with the famous John Galt I mentioned that until I started doing my expat insider seminars around five years ago now There was something like a 15 year period where I rarely had contact with gringos at all Which is why I believe that sometimes I switch back and forth from Spanish to English in the same sentence without realizing it It's kind of weird and probably annoys people but sometimes my Spanish kind of inadvertently leaks out when I'm speaking with a gringo Nope, it's not Alzheimer's, but language schizophrenia, but where were we oh? Yeah bottom line no one I mean no one gets in trouble down here for whacking their kids well whacking them out yes But not for just whacking them which means Latin parents
[17:25] Don't get any flack or dirty looks from parents when they Swat their kids or yank them around by the years in a public place like Walmart yep It's like going 30 or 40 years back in time you got to love it or not Oh, and I mentioned I was at a house where the maid was flicking through the channels and she stopped on MTV unplugged and when she had her fill of that she flicked to a news channel that immediately caught her interest now Latinos will always stop on a channel when they're showing some city up in the states where Latinos are picketing and Protesting and these days you'll see that a lot for one thing They're always hoping to see if Trump had a heart attack or something and some are watching because they're hoping against all odds They might catch a glimpse of uncle Julio who slipped across the Rio Grande a couple years back And it's true all middle and lower middle-class Latins do have relatives up in the states
[18:12] So what's the point well something you might not know is that all big Latin American television stations and networks have? Correspondence up in the states reporting on Latin news up there you see them all the time on the nightly news down here And it's always in Spanish of course in fact There's a number of Latin correspondents in Washington DC covering the election news So anyway the cleaning lady was glued to this set and there was a report from a Latin correspondent in DC He was interviewing a Latin immigration attorney who just happened to be giving advice to Latins living in the states who were there illegally She was giving out tips on what and what not to do if US immigration knocks on your front door now Can you imagine if they aired a news spot like that on national TV up in the states?
[19:01] Don't you think regular US citizens would be absolutely outraged? Or maybe not I've been away from the states a long long time who am I to judge anyway? Here's what she said if ice that's I see the US immigration authority knocks at your door do not under any Circumstances open that door and remain absolutely quiet until you're sure they have left She said they cannot break your door down or entice you to open the door nor can they pick your lock and enter or come Through a window whether it's open or not She said they can only come in and route you out if you give them permission don't give them permission Which is why she said you should all have a safe space in your house to go and wait it out a place in the house Preferably with no windows and if there are windows the shades should be permanently drawn now when I saw this
[19:50] My eyes must have been bugging out. I just couldn't believe it damn I wish I could have recorded that and there's reason number 4226 why you just have to vote with your feet get that plan B in action now It's true. The US is really not your country anymore It's a country overrun by a big malignant government massive corporate interests who actually own those scumbag politicians And anyone who could sneak past that 2,000 miles of virtually unprotected border But I digress as usual. So that's the kind of propaganda you see down here on Latin TV Stuff you never see or hear about up in the States even though it's coming right out of the mouths of Latin reporters stationed right up where you live and As far as that Latin immigration lawyer up in the States
[20:35] I think she ought to be beat to a pulp with a selfie stick and shoved in a room with no windows as far as I Can see she's taking advantage of the US system just as much as anyone who sneaks in illegally Why because that's how she makes her money and she admitted it on TV. She said Undocumented Americans in the States make up most of her client base, but let's not get into lawyer bashing There are better things to talk about here is an email I've been promising to get to for a long time, but it just slipped through the cracks this one comes from Brad He says Johnny during my recent research on living in Honduras It appears that I can earn an interest rate at the bank of 10% or more down there for large deposits Like for example $50,000 plus seems too good to be true considering the pathetic rates here in the US
[21:22] What's the cash? Volatility no insurance to back up the deposit even reviewing a 10-year history of Honduran funny money It seems all things considered a much better deal than you can get up in the US Well Brad, you're right all over Latin America. You can get pretty high interest rates compared to the states In fact, you can get 10% in a local funny money in a lot of Latin countries However, you have to put it in for a long term a year or more And even though if you look at the histories of some of these Latin currencies, they seem very stable even over 10 years And he's right in the case of the Honduran lambita. It's been very stable That's also true of the Guatemalan Quetzal and some others now most gringos I know who are Successful at this kind of thing. They don't like to buy funny money CDs with terms of over three months
[22:09] That way they've got some flexibility and when it comes due they can roll it over if the currency remains stable Or they can cash out if it's taken a dive then put into dollars gold Bitcoin land Whatever now the odd thing is that some Latin funny monies are quite stable and others are going absolutely crazy and Not in a good crazy way either Take for example the Venezuelan Boulevard highest inflation rate in the world Take the Brazil real now if you remember about two years ago They were talking about how Brazil was the next big powerhouse in the world all the economic signals and science were positive the real Was zooming against a dollar pundits were saying get into the stock market buy land, etc. Etc All those pundits were wrong over that last two-year period the Brazilian real crashed one-third
[22:59] That's 33 percent So let's say you had 50 grand in Brazilian reals over that two-year period and you were getting 10 percent interest a year on it Well over that two-year period you'd have lost ten percent of your money. Okay, then how about the Argentine peso? Well, let's pick two years again. It's lost 50% against the US dollar that means if you'd have had money in an Argentine peso CD at ten percent You'd have lost close to a third of your dough as measured against the US dollar So as it turns out the countries that get the most remisses that is money being sent from family members up in the states Oddly enough. Those are the countries that seem to have the strongest funny money over the long term so then how does that make their funny money so strong well their banks are flush with US dollars way too many of them and
[23:49] Locals who receive those remisses and dollars have to turn them into the local funny money to spend them since retailers Do not accept dollars as a rule only the local money. However in those places on the gringo tourist trail They will accept dollars. So in Costa Rica Panama Mexico, etc They will take dollars, but the exchange rate will be pretty terrible Sometimes five even ten percent of what you could get at the local bank when exchanging money and happy starry-eyed gringos on Vacations are often glad to take that five or ten percent loss They'd rather pay in dollars because they just can't get the hang of the funny money and locals are glad to gouge those rich gringos So while gringo tourists are constantly getting gouged gringos who live down here permanently know better and always Exchange their money at the bank and never at one of those currency exchange places at the airport. They really gouge you
[24:41] Anyway, my recommendation if you want to get a funny money CD down here Don't take it out for a term more than three months and do check out the five and ten year charts on the currency You're interested in that is how it's performed against the US dollar in that time And if it hasn't moved against the US dollar more than five percent or so and all that time, you're probably pretty safe However, if you're gonna get a CD, why not get one in US dollars? Sure They're paying about half the rate of the funny money CDs But still you can get up to five even six percent annual rate and you're only worried there as if the bank's kind of unstable And banks do fail down here But your lawyer will know which are the strongest banks and the ones that have been around the longest and have no Reserve or liquidity problems or exposure to derivatives and such
[25:28] So don't just pick a bank out of the newspaper because they're advertising high interest rates always check with your lawyer In fact use the bank your lawyer uses oh and one last thing Brad asked if they have deposit insurance Well, they all do but they pay so little most all banks down here have a deposit insurance cap But we get this from two to five thousand bucks, which is shocking and does scare gringos However, if you talk to a Latin person about it They're more than happy with it because about up to five years ago Most Latin banks did not have deposit insurance at all. And by the way since probably 95% of all Latins don't have more than 200 bucks in the bank. They're nowhere near the two grand deposit limit So it hardly matters. Okay, we're getting towards the end now. So let me remind you once again
[26:17] You can still sign up for my July 2016 Latin insider seminar to be held in and around Guatemala Mostly well off the gringo tourist trail So find out how to get your plan be in motion and come on down, you know to vote with your feet You'll need some connections and that's what we're here for. So just go to www.thenewexpet.com and click on Johnny's July 2016 Seminar link while you're at that website. Don't forget to check out John Galt's pre and post seminar trips, too When you're down here, you'll want to make the best use of your time and seminar attendees are forever asking me about extra days They might like to spend down here Many of them want to get even more boots on the ground that is without hooking up with a travel agency for a canned trip and a boring guide
[27:03] Which is why I highly recommend John Galt's pre and post seminar tours because you won't get that kind of experience and knowledge or boots On the ground from any tourist agency. That's for sure. So do check out the pre and post seminar trips On the new expat.com webpage as well. By the way, more and more of you listeners are hitting on my youtube channel So thanks for checking that out. That's how you can see the great photos and slides that go along with the audio do subscribe. It's free South of the border You've been listening to the expat files living in Latin America coming to you twice a week from somewhere south of the border Email me the expat files at gmail.com And if you want me to help you sort out your own Latin American plans schedule a one-on-one consult with me
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