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#693 – The Expat Files: Car Buying, Road Hazards, and Motorcycle Culture in Latin America

Show #693 · September 17, 2017

Johnny Mueller shares practical advice for expats navigating the complexities of car ownership and road safety in Latin America.

Episode Summary

In this episode of The Expat Files, Johnny Mueller shares his experiences and insights on various aspects of expat life in Latin America. The episode is divided into several segments, each focusing on a different topic related to expat challenges and practical advice.

In the first segment, Johnny discusses car buying tips for expats living in Latin America. He advises against buying new cars unless one is looking for a basic, utility-focused model that's on sale. He highlights the affordability and reliability of compact cars like the Nissan Centra, Honda Civic, Kia Kanto, and Hyundai i10, which are often available for around $10,000. However, he warns about the risks of driving on poorly maintained roads, especially at night or in areas with unpredictable potholes and speed bumps. He emphasizes the importance of inspecting a used car's undercarriage for signs of damage and recommends avoiding small cars for long-distance travel due to their vulnerability to road hazards. Overall, he suggests opting for larger vehicles like pickup trucks or SUVs for better protection and reliability.

In the second segment, Johnny discusses the challenges of driving in Latin America, emphasizing the importance of choosing the right vehicle for safety. He recommends pickups or medium SUVs due to their higher ground clearance, larger tires, and heavy-duty suspensions, which help them handle potholes and speed bumps better than smaller cars. Johnny also highlights the dangers of driving at night and the prevalence of unsafe road conditions, especially after rainstorms. He criticizes the design of speed bumps, which are often left with gaps in the center, allowing motorcyclists to pass through without slowing down, which he views as a dangerous and idiotic move. He also touches on the issue of motorcycle riders, many of whom lack proper licenses and often break traffic laws, leading to accidents and frustration for drivers. Johnny shares a personal anecdote about an incident involving a motorcycle and a car, where he and his friend chose not to stop, citing the reckless behavior of motorcyclists. The segment ends with a mention of delivery drivers, who are also seen as dangerous due to their urgency and disregard for traffic laws.

In the third segment, the discussion shifts to the culture and risks associated with motorcycle riding in Latin America. Johnny highlights the prevalence of cheap, underpowered motorcycles and the lack of insurance among riders, which often leads to dangerous situations. He contrasts this with the presence of high-end motorcycles, which are typically owned by the wealthy and are more regulated. Johnny also shares anecdotes about the dangers of riding, including the risk of injury and the lack of legal consequences, and reflects on the cultural differences in motorcycle culture between Latin America and the United States.

In the fourth segment, Johnny discusses the challenges of importing used motorcycles, particularly Harleys, into Latin America. He shares the story of his friend Sean, who attempted to import used Harleys from the U.S., but faced difficulties due to the local market's preference for brand new bikes. Johnny highlights that the Harley market in Latin America is dominated by wealthy individuals who buy new bikes and rarely sell them. He also notes that the used bike market is limited, and the idea of selling imported bikes for cash is not viable due to the lack of cash among potential buyers. The segment then shifts to a discussion about new car warranties in Latin America, where manufacturers offer shorter and less comprehensive warranties compared to the first world. Johnny mentions specific examples like Hyundai and Toyota, explaining the differences in warranty terms. He also touches on the state of roads and vehicle maintenance in the region, emphasizing the harsh conditions that vehicles face. Finally, he briefly mentions the topic of vaccines in Latin America, noting the mixed opinions among expats and gringos.

In the final segment, Johnny Mueller discusses his conversation with a maintenance worker named Nectiline, who grew up in a remote area without access to vaccinations. Nectiline reveals that none of his siblings had been vaccinated, and only one of them died from a machete injury while trying to get honey from a beehive. He also mentions that his siblings were not vaccinated due to the lack of medical facilities in their town. Johnny then asks about his children, and Nectiline mentions that nurses come to school to give vaccinations, showing a contrast between his upbringing and his children's modern lifestyle. Johnny ends the segment by promoting his expat insider seminar and discussing the importance of having a Plan B, especially in light of recent cybersecurity threats targeting energy companies.

Topics

Car buying tips for expats in Latin America, Road conditions and hazards in Latin America, Used car inspection tips, Vehicle recommendations for urban vs. long-distance travel, Driving in Latin America, Vehicle safety, Road conditions, Motorcycle safety, Traffic laws and violations, Motorcycle culture in Latin America, Insurance and legal issues for motorcyclists, Risks and consequences of riding in Latin America

Chapters

00:00:00 Opening
00:00:32 Car Buying Tips for Expats in Latin America
00:01:11 Pricing and Availability of Compact Cars
00:01:21 Reliability and Vulnerability of Small Cars
00:02:29 Importance of Inspecting a Used Car's Undercarriage
00:05:31 Recommendations for Long-Distance Travel
00:05:52 Choosing the Right Vehicle for Safety in Latin America
00:07:09 Why Motorcycles Are Dangerous in Latin America
00:10:57 Motorcyclists Become Enemies After Accidents
00:11:20 The Fast and Dangerous Life of a Motorcyclist in Latin America
00:12:50 Insurance and the Legal Consequences of Accidents
00:14:32 The Status Symbol of High-End Motorcycles in Latin America
00:16:59 The Risk of Owning a Motorcycle in Latin America
00:17:03 Sean's Attempt to Import Used Harleys
00:19:22 New Car Warranties in Latin America
00:21:56 Vehicle Maintenance and Road Conditions in Latin America
00:22:25 Vaccines in Latin America
00:22:40 Vaccination Discussion Among Expats and Gringles
00:23:42 Nectiline's Background and Lack of Vaccinations
00:24:54 Nectiline's Children and Vaccinations
00:25:49 Cybersecurity Threats and the Importance of Plan B

Transcript

Automatically transcribed from the original recording; names and wording may contain errors.

[00:00] South of the border, down Mexico way That's where I fell in love when the stars above came out to play and now as I wonder Hello there all you expat wannabes I'm Johnny Mueller and you're listening to the expat files living in Latin America The show that tells you just what it's like to live work play and or retire down here in Latin America It's a mix of the good the bad the ugly and the great and it's all right here. So let's get started So I've got some people asking me about new car warranties and guarantees here in Latin America Well, first of all, I don't really recommend buying a new car down here in Latin America Unless you're out looking for a real utility basic model and they're having a great sale

[00:48] And you'll see those in Latin newspapers all the time now in Central America Almost all the major car brands have a low-end model. For example, Nissan's got their Centra, Honda's got their Civic There's the Kiape Kanto and the Hyundai i10 and a couple times a year when they're offering deals You can get any one of those models for around 10 grand even less tax included However, those same models in South America 50 to 100 percent more in a past show. I explained why anyway Those are all very dependable compact four-door cars But there are no great chicks. They're just utility for getting around and they practically are indestructible That is if you're driving during the day and avoid the big potholes and gigantic Tumolos those speed bumps that'll rip out your oil pan and undercarriage

[01:35] Even if you hit them at low speed when you approach one You almost have to come to a complete stop and kind of roll over them And still if you have a couple people in a small car or some heavyweight gringos, you'll bottom out So be prepared for that eventuality It will happen and if you think that doesn't happen a hundred times a day on Almost every one of these two mollows just to have a look at the top of them You'll see the scrapes and gouges caused hopefully by other people's oil pans not yours Speaking of two mollows consider this if you're on the lookout for a used car down here Don't forget to physically inspect the undercarriage of the car to see just how much abuse that car's underbelly has taken from said Sometimes painful speed bumps and man when you go over too fast or too heavy and feel the scrape Oh, it goes right through you and it makes you cringe

[02:23] The only saving grace is when it happens in someone else's car. So have a look under the chassis It's a way to tell if the previous owner or seller has babied it or not So the fewer dents and scrapes you see in the undercarriage The nicer the owner or previous owner was to the car So beware of gouges big dents and sometimes deformed tie rods and twisted metal struts And it's something most people will never check out They'll walk around the car sitting it driving it looking the trunk under the hood check the oil maybe and kick the tires though Rarely will they lay flat on their backs and stick their head under the car and for the hundredth time I'm gonna tell you again try not to drive at night unless you really know the area And it's not about physical or personal danger

[03:11] I'm referring to the fact you could easily hit a two milo or a big unseen hole and Destroy the front end of your car or at least cripple it a bit It's happened to me a number of times now during the dry season called the summer season down here That's between October and March about six months You're not gonna have that much of a problem with the gaping potholes But you'll have some real badass speed bumps to deal with all year round because you see it's always the rainy season that breeds New and unpredictable potholes by day you can spot them But at night man every time you go out even on a familiar road It's all about luck and timing and the road crews yeah They're out there, but they use a cheap cold patch and often just a couple of weeks after a big hole's been patched Well, it's gouged out again. That said here's another car buying tip

[03:56] If you buy a compact or a small car like the ones I mentioned, they're great on gas parts are cheap and very inexpensive to run Plus it seems they last forever well They do if you're just using them for local urban transportation in a populated area But I wouldn't recommend one of those cars for routine long-distance travel Unless again, you're driving during the day, and you really know that road again It's not about thieves and carjackings that stuff only happens in areas tuned in gringos stay far far away from it's the much greater probability that little car is gonna get damaged and not a Pothole at 50 miles an hour that will ruin your day. Yep I've hit a few potholes at high speed and destroyed a few tire rims and when you're out in the middle of nowhere Well, then what yeah, of course you'll have a spare and it'll actually be inflated because you're a gringo, right?

[04:48] But if it's one of those small basic cars It'll be one of those disgusting little donuts that you're not supposed to go over 40 miles an hour with Sheesh the guy that invented those things ought to be forced to ride on those the rest of his life How'd you like to be stuck out in the middle of nowhere a hundred miles from nothing riding on one of those? Meanwhile when you're a hundred miles from nothing with a destroyed rim Now you have to hunt out a garage or mechanic shop that can find you a new rim and tire Which is not good news if let's say you're taking a trip from Managua Nicaragua to La Saba Honduras and on your way to an ice vacation in Roatan now the days shot and maybe the whole trip too So bottom line those small cars cheap good even great for the city But not a very good long-distance transportation solution

[05:34] Which is why if you're going to drive You should be thinking pickup truck or small or medium-sized SUV Not new use of course that makes you not much of a target at all for bad guys and no goodniks So skip the small car if you drive outside the city a lot again Go for a pickup or smaller medium SUV. Why because they're higher up off the ground Their tires are much bigger and they've got oversized heavy duty suspensions And it's not that you won't bottom out on a tumalo or speed bump if you're going too fast You just might but a vehicle like that is pretty much built to take it or at least take a few once in a while And as for potholes, man They could take a pretty big pothole that would normally disable a small vehicle and come out of it a okay

[06:20] I can vouch for that in fact I've driven many a pickup an SUV and I've hit many a man-sized pothole And as of today 27 years and counting here in latin america I've yet to disable one of those vehicles or blow a tire on a pothole But sometimes, you know, you're stuck driving at night. I know you're not supposed to do that right johnny Well, it's not a matter of do what I say. Not what I do It's just that sometimes you're stuck at someone's house or in a traffic jam Oh those big city traffic jams here in latin america blow your mind Whatever the reason sometimes you're in an event or a party and it's nighttime, right? Even so hopefully, you know the roads in the area and can maneuver your way around but don't get overconfident That's when murphy's law kicks in with a new bunch of potholes that weren't there yesterday Especially after a rainstorm. That's when the fun begins

[07:09] And why I think it's absolutely crazy to own a motorcycle down here unless Unless you live in a small town from five thousand to maybe fifty thousand people then a motorcycle could work out quite well However, beware of the rainy season. Oh, and by the way, this makes no sense at all But what does in latin america those big speed bumps are two milos i'm talking about they run the entire width of a road Well, kind of but not quite you see where the center line is supposed to divide the highway There's a funny thing that seems to be universal those wretched contractors who install those massive speed bumps Always leave about a six inch gap there right in the center of the road allowing those crazy ass Motorcyclists to whip right through without hitting the two milo at all

[07:57] So they don't have to slow down, but you have to or suffer the damages and to me That's one of the most craziest idiotic design moves i've ever seen because it's the motorcycles that cause so many freaking accidents down here Hell you see pictures in the paper every day of motorcyclists in terrible accidents Cyclists and their passengers getting mashed and plastered all the time Many don't have tail lights or headlights that forever whipping through traffic scratching your car or knocking your mirrors out of joint good things They swivel, huh and driving the wrong way against the traffic. You see that all the time Yet the street departments and the road contractors cut them slack by letting them whip right through when us cars have to slow down Or else just one of the thousand and one things that drives you nuts here in latin america and cannot be changed

[08:45] So get used to it. I know I know most gringos and expats never do get used to it So i'm giving you the boots on the ground heads up and what to expect Now if I was the chief corrupt fat ass of a latin street department I'd make the two milos a little shorter and plug those center gaps now You might be thinking since 95 of motorcyclists drive tiny fragile rice burners Did he say rice burners? I know that's very un-pc. So shoot me Anyway, you might be thinking how dangerous can they be? Well newspaper stats point out 50 of motorcycle owners do not have driver's licenses That bodes well for the rest of us drivers, doesn't it? So that's what you have to look forward to when you drive down here. That's your competition on the street

[09:33] All right. All right full disclosure here I was with expat eddie twice when he hit a motorcycle or I should say they hit him Oh, they wiped out. All right, and eddie's car got a few scratches good thing He drives a used one and you know what neither of us felt any sympathy for those guys And eddie did what his latin lawyer unofficially advised just kept on going No, they didn't die or anything. They got banged up a bit But surely they're out on the road somewhere right now and dating during the lives of other people or perhaps justice or Darwinism has intervened who knows I know I know i'm probably gonna get some emails from people saying johnny You're a heartless bastard. You didn't even stop Well, it was eddie's call and he was just following his lawyer's advice And I remember eddie looking at me and saying sarcastically johnny

[10:20] Can you give me one good reason why a person would leave the scene of an accident? I said no, but I can give you about 10 for one thing. They stink they're noisy They blow smoke in your face and even though they're missing headlights brake lights tail lights You name it. They don't use the proper hand signals. They don't even know what they are Not to mention they weave through traffic like maniacs run red lights all the time They often have three four even five people on a bike and break every traffic law imaginable Can I stop now? Is that 10 reasons yet? Yep, when you first get down here When you see that stuff it's both ridiculous and amusing at the same time But when they scrape your car hit you or cause an accident like expat eddie always says they become the enemy One by the way I know I mentioned in a pasture that every single fast food restaurant big and small franchise or not delivers to your house

[11:10] So when you see that word domicilio, that means they deliver to your house And in some ways those delivery guys are the worst of all because they're on a schedule. They're trying to get there fast They've got orders to get there fast, which is why so often you'll see it's delivery guys Weaving through traffic and breaking every law in the book And if you're down here long enough, especially in the big city occasionally You'll see one busted up in a ditch somewhere. You can't roll the dice like that and not lose sometimes crazier yet Nearly every time a motorcyclist gets in an accident and his bike is destroyed and he's not so badly injured himself He'll start running. He'll take for the hills I guess maybe you would too if you caused an accident and you didn't have a driver's license or insurance Up in the states, that'd be sure jail time, right?

[11:57] And you think that would be true everywhere, but this is latin america and you never know speaking of insurance for Motorcyclists, which is probably the least expensive of all insurance by far still Statistics show that less than five percent of all motorcyclists carry it back the other day I was walking through a commercial district in a big latin city They had a nice big row of brand new underpowered rice burning 100cc soon to be hazardous pieces of road trash for under a thousand bucks and people who are in the market for that kind of junk don't have money But these days all dealers have a payment plan 20 or 30 bucks a month So as it turns out only cyclists on the payment plan have insurance Just like when you buy a car on time the dealer includes insurance in the payment

[12:45] So if you anticipate an accident with a motorcyclist make sure it's shiny and new That way you're sure he has insurance and he'll be properly licensed too. So he'll probably stick around He won't run even if his legs aren't broken now latin governments cops and transit authorities Know motorcycles are a severe danger to the population. In fact, i've seen various public service announcements on tv Showing a guy putting on his helmet Getting on his bike driving through traffic and actually slowing down at stop signs and stopping for red lights Yep, he slowed down for stop signs Look both ways first kind of blew my mind because where I come from up in the states They call that the chicago roll and even back then some 30 years ago that it cost you points and probably two or three hundred bucks

[13:32] So even in a public service safety announcement The motorcyclist was breaking the law and now quite recently i've even seen some latin insurance companies run some tv commercials Showing a happy young guy buying a motorcycle and signing up for insurance and the monthly cost right up there on the screen get this Starting at four dollars a month. Yep four bucks Now a month or so ago when I was renewing my own car liability insurance I saw pamphlets and ads everywhere and asked the lady at the desk how that motorcycle insurance promo was going I pointed to a big poster on the wall with a happy latino walking up to a desk with helmet in hand Well, the young lady looked at me wrinkled her nose and said not good Yep, even four bucks a month is a little outside the budget of an average latin american motorcyclist

[14:22] Hey, now don't get me wrong. There are upscale people down here who ride bmw's to cotties Harley davidsons even indians and those things can cost as much as a car And you can guarantee a guy who's bought a bike like that has insurance and is obeying all the rules, too So yes, they've got all the high-end motorcycle dealerships down here in latin america every big city has them all But still so few people buy them compared to the regular rice burners that you could go for days And not see a single one of them However on weekends you might see a few parked in front of high-end restaurants and malls because they are mostly latin rich guys weekend toy Yep, those high-end bikes are cool. All right many years ago back in the states I had one and you know There's a lot of freewheeling adventurous expat gringos who are into harley's back in the states

[15:10] And sometimes it stays in your blood and you can continue that habit down here If you want to live dangerously and that's sometimes what owning a bike like a harley or a ducati is all about Yep, they've got all the support in the dealerships down here, but i'd advise against it First of all, as I mentioned in the past show the cult of harley down here is not like the cult of harley up in the states Down here. It's a bunch of rich guys and pristine leathers and accessories wimpy wannabe weekend warriors by our standards Meaning if you're into harley's down here and want to hang with harley guys or indian guys or ducati guys, whatever Like one of my gringo buddies mike always says and he owned a harley dealership here He said they're all terrible posers. It's like these guys are dressing up for a harley fashion show

[15:57] He's a big tough guy ex-marine He said there had been a few harley events where he's had the overwhelming desire to Pop one or two of those guys in the jaw But he said he held off because it could hurt repeat sales, you know And those posers they do have money and they buy a lot of accessories and that's where the money is Now this one middle-aged latin harley poser a successful latin business suit during the week But on the weekends all decked out in his perfectly unblemished leathers Anyway, I lost track of him for a couple of years and ran into him again Not so long ago at a latin american costco kind of rambling through the aisles with his wife Walking with a cane and I said what happened? He had an accident on his harley a truck went through a red light. I said oh too bad

[16:44] When do you get rid of the cane? He said not likely and he pulled up his pant leg to show me the glistening titanium of his prosthesis Man his weekend harley habit cost him his leg. Was it worth it? Well, I wasn't about to ask him that question But it sure reinforced my belief that you don't want to have a motorcycle down here Not to mention just recently another good friend of mine at gringo tried his hand at a business importing Slightly used harleys from the states He figured it could work because the harley market down here is almost all brand new bikes You see the rich latin posers will buy their harleys brand new and when they get tired of that toy They leave it in the garage. They don't sell it. They don't need the money and it's kind of a prestige first world item

[17:29] And my gringo buddy sean thought now that might be a niche I can fill and brought his first bike down By the way, there are tons of used low mileage harleys up in the states for sale That's how I bought mine in chicago way back when I remember the chicago tribune had 20 or 30 used harleys for sale every day But it's not like that down here. Even the biggest latin american newspaper classified ad sections It's not often you see a used harley or high-end bike for sale So anyway, sean got that first used harley shipped down. I said bring it on over. I want to see it So he came over was about a 10 mile ride When he arrived he looked at me and rolled his eyes and said johnny. I almost got killed twice on the way here enough said about that except to say it didn't turn out to be the great business niche that he and I thought it might be

[18:17] Found out it was a bit difficult to sell that bike even though he had it priced. Absolutely, right. So what happened? Well latin america is just filled with tire kickers big on bluster short on cash In this case harley wannabes will buy the leathers and the accessories here and there but never have enough cash to buy the bike And we're talking like five to ten thousand bucks for a nice used harley The new ones of course go for 15 g's or much more And down here unlike up in the states buying a harley is a rich man's game And they've all got the dough to buy a brand new one and that's a tiny less than one percent of the population The rest the harley rider wannabes could never afford a brand new bike Though maybe they could afford a used one on the payment plan But the idea was to sell these imported bikes for cash

[19:03] Believe me. The one thing you don't want to get involved with down here is lending money to latins or giving them any kind of credit So when you're talking that kind of cash five or ten grand, that's one thing the average harley rider wannabe doesn't have So good idea cool product, but an idea that was not quite ready for prime time But where were we got off the track again at the beginning of the show we were talking about new car warranties here in latin America yes, they do exist because they have new car dealerships However, you'll find the big car manufacturers are smart enough to realize You don't want to give the same warranty in latin america as you do In a first world country where people take care of their cars and the roads are nicer and the maintenance generally gets done on schedule Which is why when you buy a new car or a motorcycle down here you get about half for the guarantee

[19:53] They offer up in the states or in the rest of the first world good example hyundees They're all over the place here in latin america and in the states They have what they call the world's best new car warranty 10 years or a hundred thousand miles Have you seen those ads and down here latin america you buy the very same car from a hyundee dealership instead of 10 years You get five instead of a hundred thousand miles you get a hundred thousand kilometers Which works out to about 60 000 miles And you know toyota has got a five years 60 000 mile guarantee up in the first world and down here three years and 50 000 kilometers same with cars built by honda Five-year 60 000 mile warranty and here in latin america three years and 50 000 kilometers

[20:39] Same with nissan chevy lexus and many of the others And you know those extra long new car warranties are one of the reasons people like to buy new So anyway big car manufacturers have figured out. It's a different world here in latin america They know from experience that their cars really take a beating compared to those same models up in the states in the rest of the First world, but wait a minute in these days of extreme pc Sensitivity up where you live. Anyway, aren't those big car manufacturers? Socially if not racially profiling their buyers. Hey, now, don't you think that calls for a class action lawsuit or two? It's a human rights crime different car warranties for different cultures. I know it's the russians Where are those social justice warriors when you need them?

[21:29] Meanwhile when you're driving down here every single minute of the day you see horrible pieces of junk on the road that would Never last five minutes up in the states without being pulled over and impounded 40 year old dot sins honda civics nissan sentras lights busted out Cracked windshields yet. These pieces of mirror that just keep on running Considering there's virtually no maintenance. It's amazing However, one thing latin america has got going for it. No snow. No salt down here You rarely see through and through rust unless you've got a vehicle that's down to bare metal and you live on the ocean Oh, and don't forget here in latin america. The sun is intense and that beats the hell out of plastics Though admittedly plastics have come a long long way

[22:15] But still anything you leave outside that's been taking some sun for a couple hours day is gonna eventually look pretty shotted All right changing gears. No pun intended Then getting some emails about vaccines here in latin america I mentioned in the past show how all the ngo's and do-gooders are coming down and Injecting little kids and because it's coming from the first world the parents think it's just peachy However, just the other day a bunch of us gringles and expats. We're sitting around talking about vaccines All of us saying that we'd never recommend it for our own kids. That is if we had them Well, it just so happened my maintenance guy knocked on the door for something or other and I said to him nectiline What a name, huh? nectiline Easy to remember though good memory aid like nectarine. I said nectiline

[23:05] How many vaccines have you had in your life and he's around i'd say 45 years old and his eyes widened And he looked at me. He said in spanish, of course none I said what because you know in all my life I never met an adult who had absolutely no vaccinations before a man I'll tell you this guy is a fit wiry tough old sob Obviously an excellent case for not vaccinating anyone at all. Then I asked him in spanish, of course What about the childhood diseases, you know measles mumps chicken pox the usual suspects. He said yeah, I had all that stuff but vaccinations bacunas in spanish Nope, neither. Did my parents my grandparents or my 13 brothers and sisters then I asked as diplomatically as I could By the way, i've been told they don't particularly excel in that skill. Can you tell?

[23:54] Anyway, I asked nectiline if all his sisters and brothers were still alive. He said no two had died I said how he said one died out in the compo. That would be the jungle or the brush Machete went into a beehive and they got him. Whoa What a way to go and another brother died a few years back in get this A motorcycle accident now nectiline and his brothers and sisters grew up in the compo That'd be way out in the boonies hundreds of miles from the big city Then I asked him when you were living there you remember anyone getting vaccinated He said don johnny to tell you the truth. Those little pueblos are very spread out There was no doctor in our town. Just a couple of medicine ladies and some comadronas. Those would be midwives He said though there were a couple of small pharmacies

[24:41] He himself never saw a doctor till he was 25 years old And only because he needed a chest x-ray and a clean bill of health to apply for jobs in the city Then I said what about your kids? He's got five or six He said oh, yeah nurses come to school every so often and give out vaccinations And he said that with some pride as if to reinforce The fact that his kids were much more part of the modern world than he ever was Hmm Thank you bill gates you disgusting lard ass possible All right on that happy note i'd like to mention once again That the info and early bird sign up information for my expat insider seminar Is available at? Www. The new expat.com just click on the seminar link at the top of the page

[25:28] To check out the itinerary and all the places will be putting boots on the ground in and around guatemala central america So come on down to the seminar and get a massive head start on your plan b Now I know a lot of you gather up tons of information You tune into all kinds of alternative shows yet still most of you haven't pulled the trigger on your plan b yet Do you need a little bit of a push? How about this just out today a report by internet security experts semantic They're reporting that a hacking group called dragonfly 2.0 Have gained access to 20 power company networks and grids According to semantic the hackers gained access to the interface needed to control power stations and equipment. They could use to disrupt the grid

[26:14] semantics corp Security experts say this time hackers were in there just to look around They admitted groups like that are targeting energy companies Carrying out reconnaissance work for a future attack and that's just what they're telling the public All right So if you're on the fence, how much more bad news do you have to hear before you get that plan b underway? Remember the only place down here in latin america that's strategic at all the first world big brother in the deep state Is the panama canal? Come on when that big reset button gets pushed up north Wouldn't you rather be sitting in a hammock? Sucking down a mai tai watching the chaos and the martial law from a nice safe place a thousand miles or so away

[27:00] Believe me. You don't have to be a prepper down here Come on with four growing seasons in perfect weather prep for what so you got to get rolling And if you can't get down to the seminar the next best thing is to take my expat essentials course See the free video that explains it all at expat plan b.com And remember you can always do a one-on-one phone or skype consultation with me Download my phone consultation format the new expat.com Oh, and if you sign up for my expat insider seminar, there will be no charge for the consult south of the border This is the expat files living in latin america If you want me to help you out with your own plan b just schedule a one-on-one consult Send me an email at the expat files at gmail.com

[27:45] And if you want to learn how to move forward with your own plan b from right up there in the states Go to www.expatplanb.com and check out my three videos. See you

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